Adam Driver will be appearing next month as Kylo Ren for what is most likely the final time, and speaking with Total Film about his latest movie Marriage Story he discussed finding the more personal moments in a huge film like The Rise of Skywalker.

Daisy Ridley is Rey and Adam Driver is Kylo Ren in STAR WARS: THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

“In a way, Star Wars is a big blockbuster, which you would think would be maybe devoid of those conversations [about character], but I haven’t found the process very dissimilar. You try to make Star Wars personal as much as anything else, and because J.J. was the director and because Rian Johnson was the director, it all came down to similar [things]… taking moments and breaking them into pieces and making sure you’re truthful.”

And Driver discussed the differences between a monster set like Star Wars and the much more intimate workplace of a set like Marriage Story.

“The obvious difference is the rhythm of a set,” he added. “A Star Wars set, there are 50 people all doing individual jobs, whether it be special effects or brushing a leaf or vacuuming something. There are just so many more moving pieces that finding your footing in the rhythm of that set… it’s just longer.”